Nz: I would imagine that they did. The author of the Avatar comic at Palcomix said he asked for this page to be done deliberately as a tribute to Fluffy.
Anonymous7: I'm sorry you guys are stupid. This is a form of practice that many artists use to develop their skills. So your "This is traced!" speech is redundant. How does one learn? By learning from another professional who was not always a professional.
Now I'm not saying either artist is a professional, the statement above was just an explanation.
traffik: Anon7, you call this "a form of practice that many artists use to develop their skills". Well, that's fine if you're just doing practice sketches at home. But this is a publicly released comic, not a 'practice' sketch... so your argument doesn't hold up.
It'd be one thing if they'd acknowledged the influence right in the comic. Fluffy's name should be mentioned somewhere at the bottom of this page. But who do they credit at the bottom? 'PalComix', and no one else. So before you go calling others here 'stupid', maybe you should take your head out of your ass.
Anonymous10(1): It's not referencing, it's straight up copying. It's the EXACT SAME PICTURE with just different coloring, and fluffy is nowhere acknowledged or even mentioned. You can bring up all the "its a tribute, yadda yadda" defense, but this is still not something you do on a PAYSITE.
Anonymous12(1): anon11: You have no clue what you are talking about do you? In movies and music, the original references are always credited (in the booklet, in the staff roll). As for sites like hentaipalm, lots of artists get payed for their content there. That their art is used with or without acknowledgement, that depends on whatever was their contract or terms or whatever, but the main difference is that they get payed for it.
Look, it's like this.
1. Fluffy draws porn
2. palcomix traces the porn, makes a lotta $$$
3. Fluffy gets no $$$ for his work, infact he doesn't even get credited.
See the problem?
And yes, this was tracing. Not a homage or referencing. It's the exact same picture traced into three comic panels.
Anonymous13: *shoots a noob*
this was a commissioned comic, that means someone paid palcomix to make it, they probably said to throw that page in, maybe even paid a little bit extra to do it
Sarahsuke: The irony in this is that I'm sure quite a few of those who are rallying against PalComix for ripping off Fluffy are also those who are perfectly fine with Sigurd ripping off **'s style.
A. It's not traced, it's referenced. Look up the meaning in a dictionary, if you're that retarded.
B. Nobody would get away with tracing from a well known artist. Yes, morons, Fluffy is well known.
C. Kill yourself, faggot.
Anonymous20: any anon trying to stick up for palcomix is prob 1 of them or a lapdog of theirs that begs them 2 trace more. Everyone knows now, Palcomix is FAIL an your argument has no value. ty an goodnight
SmashAdams: People don't know what 'referencing' is. It's looking at source material of something similar to what you're drawing to get an idea of what it should look like. It shouldn't be an exact copy of your reference, just enough to add to your own artistic ability so that the drawing has the correct anatomy and details. A lot of art schools have you use 2 or 3 references for one drawing so that you aren't just drawing the same exact picture.
When you take another artist's work without crediting them and draw the EXACT same thing it's tracing, or at least copying, not simply 'referencing'. People are throwing around "referencing" and "homage" because they don't want to admit that their favorite artist is a thief.
Anonymous21: SHUT THE FUCK UP! IF I HEAR ONE MORE POST ABOUT PALCOMIX STEALING/TRACING/NOT GIVING CREDIT NONE OF THE WORLD WILL HEAR THE END OF MY WRATH!
ITS PORN SO FAP AT THE ART AND KEEP YOUR BULLSHIT TO YOUR SELF OK? IM SICK OF IT AND ITS MAINLY AROUND PALCOMIX TOO,WHY? I DONT KNOW BUT ONE THING I DO KNOW IS THAT YOUR ALL ASSHOLE WHO THINK THAT PORN SHOULD ALWAYS BE CREDITED. SHUT THE FUCK UP PORN IS THERE SO YOU CAN RELEASE YOUR WAD WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT WOMEN! IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS PARTICULAR POST YOU CAN GO JUMP OFF A BUILDING OR SHOOT YOUR SELF, WHATEVER I DONT CARE BECAUSE THE WORLD NEEDS TO BE RID OF YOU FUCKERS AND IF YOU KILLED YOUR SELF MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO CANT OFF THEMSELVES. THE POINT OF THIS PIC IS TO SAY THAT FLUFFY DIDNT GET HIS CREDIT, SO WHAT HE MAKE PORN YOU FAP TO IT END OF STORY. NOW DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
traffik: A11, as A12 explained, remakes of movies and songs are done with PERMISSION of the movie studio/songwriters/artists etc. So no, my logic isn't one-sided.
But if it WAS one-sided, I'd rather be on the side of the original artist than on the side of the person/people who ripped them off. If you can't understand that, I feel sorry for you.
Anonymous23(1): Iorik: the thing with toon poon is that you can come up with near infinite poses and still make it look like a human. See dickgirl gangbang and tentacles.
Anonymous24: lulz, I love how a fat retard like SaucyMacaroniCheese is so obsessed with Sigurd to the point of bringing him in the comments section of a pic that isn't even related to him. gb2/fapping to goemon porn, dumb, smelly fangirl
I just have one comment. Palcomix when they take comissions for comics always ask for sample artwork or 'reference pics'.
That pic was probably used as a reference pic by the person who comissioned he bending break comic!
Anonymous29: el de palcomix es un tipo que no sabe dibujar por si solo, asi que no es de estrañarse que le robe el trabajo a otros dibuates y lo haga pasar por suyo.
Anonymous32: this ain't tracing, they drew the same motifs in their own style and tons of artists do this.
They could certainly have aknowledge fluffy on the finished product, but ih happens in profesionally printed comics all the time, so I really can't understand what all this outrage is about. It's ridiculous and childish.
Anonymous34: I know!!! I KNOW!!! Fluffy didn't copy Palcomix's work and Palcomix didn't copy Fluffy's work. Fluffy must obviously work for Palcomix. There problem solved...NOW START FLABPING!
Anonymous41: Both Fluffy and BBMBBF are members of WWOEC. BBMBBF is the main artist for Palcomix. It is a common practice with WWOEC and Palcomix for one artist to do the lineart and another artist to do the coloring and digital touch-up. Clearly Fluffy contributed a draft lineart version of a pic that had also already been colored by Fluffy, to be colored and touched-up by Palcomix's talented colorists. This is not a big mystery.
Anonymous48: We are hunting down Avatar the Last Airbender Hentai pictures and getting the Cyber Police to remove them as a violation to character copyright. From here on within a week, all hentai related to avatar will be gone.
Anonymous62: to anon 11
well palcomix does trace in their"yellow" image set there is a picture of that character hinako from ranma that is a trace of a picture from the princess knight lillia eroge. And you have to pay for that image set so they are ripping us off
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Now I'm not saying either artist is a professional, the statement above was just an explanation.
It'd be one thing if they'd acknowledged the influence right in the comic. Fluffy's name should be mentioned somewhere at the bottom of this page. But who do they credit at the bottom? 'PalComix', and no one else. So before you go calling others here 'stupid', maybe you should take your head out of your ass.
Gee i guess even science deserves no credit since they reference majority of their discoveries on past events.
and Anon10, you're pretty stupid - Check hentaipalm, free artists allow paysites to use their art without public acknowledgement.
stupid weeabos
Look, it's like this.
1. Fluffy draws porn
2. palcomix traces the porn, makes a lotta $$$
3. Fluffy gets no $$$ for his work, infact he doesn't even get credited.
See the problem?
And yes, this was tracing. Not a homage or referencing. It's the exact same picture traced into three comic panels.
this was a commissioned comic, that means someone paid palcomix to make it, they probably said to throw that page in, maybe even paid a little bit extra to do it
A. It's not traced, it's referenced. Look up the meaning in a dictionary, if you're that retarded.
B. Nobody would get away with tracing from a well known artist. Yes, morons, Fluffy is well known.
C. Kill yourself, faggot.
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When you take another artist's work without crediting them and draw the EXACT same thing it's tracing, or at least copying, not simply 'referencing'. People are throwing around "referencing" and "homage" because they don't want to admit that their favorite artist is a thief.
ITS PORN SO FAP AT THE ART AND KEEP YOUR BULLSHIT TO YOUR SELF OK? IM SICK OF IT AND ITS MAINLY AROUND PALCOMIX TOO,WHY? I DONT KNOW BUT ONE THING I DO KNOW IS THAT YOUR ALL ASSHOLE WHO THINK THAT PORN SHOULD ALWAYS BE CREDITED. SHUT THE FUCK UP PORN IS THERE SO YOU CAN RELEASE YOUR WAD WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT WOMEN! IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS PARTICULAR POST YOU CAN GO JUMP OFF A BUILDING OR SHOOT YOUR SELF, WHATEVER I DONT CARE BECAUSE THE WORLD NEEDS TO BE RID OF YOU FUCKERS AND IF YOU KILLED YOUR SELF MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO CANT OFF THEMSELVES. THE POINT OF THIS PIC IS TO SAY THAT FLUFFY DIDNT GET HIS CREDIT, SO WHAT HE MAKE PORN YOU FAP TO IT END OF STORY. NOW DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Still ripping off the poses, though, but it's not technically a trace.
But if it WAS one-sided, I'd rather be on the side of the original artist than on the side of the person/people who ripped them off. If you can't understand that, I feel sorry for you.
And SOULSPARX... you're funny.
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Slim from the WWOEC forums comissioned the Bending Break comics he stated this was a tribute to fluffy.
I just have one comment. Palcomix when they take comissions for comics always ask for sample artwork or 'reference pics'.
That pic was probably used as a reference pic by the person who comissioned he bending break comic!
CAPS LOCK IS FUN!
Im trying to fap here.
sheesh.
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They could certainly have aknowledge fluffy on the finished product, but ih happens in profesionally printed comics all the time, so I really can't understand what all this outrage is about. It's ridiculous and childish.
ur all homos its fucking porn. porn is porn, now get over it
STFU and fap.
I know this cause he addressed it all in a thread.
Paramount Picture Productions.
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THIS IS ON THEIR FREE SITE NUMBNUTS!
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well palcomix does trace in their"yellow" image set there is a picture of that character hinako from ranma that is a trace of a picture from the princess knight lillia eroge. And you have to pay for that image set so they are ripping us off